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Why can Huawei's cars only become more expensive as they sell?

2024-06-11

Why can Huawei's cars only become more expensive as they sell?

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·June 11, 2024 12:02

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"After cooperating with car companies, Huawei can reduce software costs, but no one will help them reduce hardware costs."

On the last night of the Dragon Boat Festival holiday, Yu Chengdong sent a friend circle to congratulate Hongmeng Zhixing on the three-day Dragon Boat Festival sales of over 7000 units across the entire series. "Continuously leading the high-end luxury new energy race!"


From "high-end" to "luxury", from asking about the world to enjoying the world, the Huawei Smart Selection car, which has been renamed as Hongmeng Zhixing, is going further and further on the increasingly expensive track, which is not the same as the current trend of new forces.


Not long ago, Xiaopeng Motors announced that it will launch a new sub brand MONA this month, with an expected first model price of 150000 yuan; On May 15th, NIO also launched its new brand "ONVO Ledao Automobile" in Shanghai, with its first car - the Ledao L60, a family intelligent electric mid size SUV, unveiled and pre ordered, starting at 219900 yuan.


As for the ideal delay in the launch plan of pure electric SUVs after MEGA's failure, the current contraction focus is on selling extended range vehicles, and recently stimulated a wave of sales with a price reduction strategy. The failure of MEGA not only represents the failure of the attempt to convert from ideal to pure electricity, but also represents the failure of its price system to rise.


In order to survive in the knockout stage, there are two schools of thought among new force brands: one is to stick to the existing territory and price range, and the other is to move downwards and seek greater space for sales expansion. Only Huawei is an exception.


The first car of Huawei Hongmeng Zhixing's third brand, the Xiangjie S9, positioned as an executive level luxury flagship sedan, which started pre-sale on May 31st, has a pre-sale price of 450000-550000 yuan. After the M9, it has solidified the price range of Huawei's model positioning as "luxury". Of course, there will also be a million dollar luxury car that Huawei and JAC have not yet named.


From Wenjie to Zhijie, and then to Xiangjie, the price has increased from 250000 yuan to 500000 yuan, and even up to 1 million yuan... Huawei seems to want to use the smart driving card to dominate the mid to high end new energy vehicle market.


NO.1

The pricing range of the Wenjie M5 and M7 from 250000 to 300000+is still considered the mainstream pricing level in the extended range SUV market; The pricing of the Zhijie S7 after its second listing (249800 to 349800) is undoubtedly based on the principle of giving more configurations rather than lowering the selling price; The price of Xiangjie, which has reached a new high of 450000 yuan for pre-sale, is not cost-effective compared to the NIO ET7 or the BBA "56E" after terminal discounts.


Some people have commented that lowering the selling price can easily affect brand reputation and positioning, so Huawei's approach is more like a helpless move to ensure reputation during the price reduction trend. Yu Chengdong's recent rhetoric at the press conference has also changed to "roll value rather than roll price.".


But another "hardship" of Yu Chengdong - that the price cannot be lowered, perhaps it is the truth.


At the Huawei HarmonyOS Spring Communication Conference in April this year, Yu Chengdong said, "Cars under 300000 yuan using Huawei's advanced intelligent driving are selling at a loss." He further stated that Huawei is currently being sanctioned due to its supply chain and various reasons, resulting in slightly higher costs for intelligent driving.


The high cost of Huawei Smart Driving is a well-known fact in the industry. At present, Huawei's intelligent driving team has exceeded 7000 people, and the cumulative R&D investment has exceeded 30 billion yuan.


In contrast, BYD and Xiaopeng's intelligent driving teams have a scale of 3000-4000; In three years, Xiaomi invested 3400 people and a total of 30 billion yuan, and the first car, the Xiaomi SU7, was launched. Huawei's 30 billion yuan investment is only for intelligent driving.


In terms of investment in innovation and research and development, Huawei ranks second, while no domestic enterprise dares to claim first. As for the automotive business, from software algorithms to self-developed smart chips, no new force can match it. This is also why Huawei Smart Drive, although not the earliest, still quickly entered the first tier.


In addition to Huawei's own investment costs, there are also costs for partners.


During the auto show, a senior manager of a joint venture roast: "Huawei can reduce software costs after cooperating with auto companies, but no one will help reduce hardware costs. Each company has its own supplier and parts system, so it is impossible to form a platform and reuse it."


In his view, this is a problem that Huawei Hongmeng Intelligence is destined to be unable to solve. This also means that even if Huawei cars sell more and more, they will not be able to significantly reduce hardware costs.


For Huawei cars today, there is a technological moat, but a cost moat like BYD has not yet been established.


The combination of unbeatable costs, Huawei's insistence on mid to high end positioning, the need for positioning differentiation among brands under Hongmeng Zhixing, and profit pressure from Yu Chengdong have made Huawei's pricing increasingly high a necessary option.


NO.2 [Is selling expensive enough to make a profit?]

A large amount of investment in human and financial resources has also led to Huawei Car BU losing 10 billion, 8 billion, and 6 billion respectively from 2021 to 2023.


Three years ago, Ren Zhengfei released a statement on social media saying "pass on the chill to everyone.". Huawei should shift from pursuing scale to pursuing profit and cash flow, and reduce all unprofitable businesses. It can be imagined how much profit pressure Yu Chengdong has been under in recent years. Therefore, Yu Chengdong has mentioned the issue of profit and loss on many occasions.


Due to the fact that the sales volume has not yet increased, Huawei Car BU was the only unprofitable business unit in the Huawei system last year. However, in May this year, Yu Chengdong announced the profitability of the car BU. He said that in the first quarter of this year, Huawei's Smart Selection and Car BU have all turned losses into profits.


At the same time as Huawei Car BU, there is also its partner, Celes.


According to the 2024 first quarter report released by Selis, its net profit in the first quarter turned positive, ending four consecutive years of losses. For the entire year of 2023, the net loss of Selis was as high as nearly 2.45 billion yuan.


According to financial report data, in the first quarter of 2024, Selis achieved operating revenue of approximately 26.561 billion yuan, a month on month increase of 38.61%, and a year-on-year increase of 421.76%; The net profit attributable to the shareholders of the listed company was approximately 220 million yuan, an increase of 845 million yuan compared to the same period last year, achieving a turnaround from losses to profits.


The biggest contributor to both Car BU and Sailis's simultaneous profitability is the Wenjie M7. Last August, the newly redesigned New World M7, which cost 500 million yuan, gained huge attention and terminal orders while taking advantage of the hot sales of Huawei's Mate 60 smartphone. The Wenjie brand has also come back to life from this.


As of the end of May, when the new M7 Ultra version of Wenjie was launched, the cumulative order volume of M7 had reached 180000.


But behind the prosperity lies the multiple difficulties faced by Huawei Automobile.


Why does the popular M7 need to be upgraded and renewed after only 8 months of release? Due to the beautiful start of the M7, there are now signs of weak growth - the sales of the M7 have dropped from 30000 units per month to 9000 units in April this year. In May, due to the lack of official release of specific model data, it is estimated that the sales of the M7 will be around 8000-9000 units.


Using new car iteration to create a new wave of consumer stimulation, although crude, is effective. But with the intensification of industry competition and the gradual decline of Huawei smartphones, to what extent can the M7 Ultra stimulate terminal sales? Has the peak of the world of inquiry passed? None of them are known yet.


According to insiders, the Wenjie M9 is still selling at a loss due to its high cost.


It can be confirmed that it is not easy for profitable car BUs to continue to maintain profitability in the next quarter. Because Yu Chengdong's current difficulties are far beyond just asking for the M7.


After its second release, the sales of the Smart S7 have increased, reaching 5012 units in April and falling back to 3455 units in May. Such a sales scale is bound to fail to meet the profitability standards;


The Xiangjie S9, which will be launched in August, not only will it be difficult to compete with the BBA C-class sedan alone, but will the cooperation between Huawei and BAIC also encounter similar difficulties in delivering the Zhijie S7? After BAIC, there is also Jianghuai, a new round of "torture" starting from scratch;


It is understood that during the three-day Dragon Boat Festival holiday of Hongmeng Zhixing, the 7000 units were all contributed by Wenjie;


In addition, Huawei cars, which sell more and become more expensive, will inevitably face a narrower market size and a test of brand accumulation


In short, the profit of car BU in the first quarter can only be considered as a shot in the arm for Huawei Automobile to continue moving forward, and there is still a problem of "strengthening emissions" waiting for Yu Chengdong to overcome.


NO.3 [written at the end]

Last year, Huawei Car BU was spun off and became independent, and its subsidiary "Yingwang Intelligence" has already been registered. At present, Huawei has invited car companies such as Changan, Celes, Chery, JAC, BAIC, Mercedes Benz, Audi, and FAW to participate in financing.


Utilizing external capital to revitalize new energy vehicles has been a common practice in the automotive industry in recent years. Huawei Car BU, which is short of money, can independently raise funds, at least temporarily unload the burden of profits and travel lightly. According to financial institutions, the valuation of the joint venture company has reached over 100 billion yuan.


To this day, Huawei Automotive is still a unique presence in the automotive industry. Some people appreciate Huawei's tremendous voice in intelligent driving, while others hope that Huawei Automotive can truly become a business card for China's mid to high end automotive industry.


The task is heavy and the road ahead is long. Mr. Yu, come on. It's really not possible, let's make our own cars!


This article is from the WeChat official account "AutoReport Auto Production" (ID: autoreport), written by Yu Jie, edited by Yang Guang, and released by authorization.


The viewpoint of this article only represents the author himself, and the 36Kr platform only provides information storage space services.




为什么华为的车只能越卖越贵?

AutoReport·2024-06-11 12:02
“华为跟车企合作之后可以降低软件成本,但是没有一个人会帮他降低硬件成本。”

端午假期最后一天晚上,余承东发朋友圈祝贺鸿蒙智行全系端午三天大定突破7000台。“持续领跑高端豪华新能源赛道!”‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍

从“高端”到“豪华”,从问界到享界,已经更名为鸿蒙智行的华为智选车,在越卖越贵的赛道上越走越远,与新势力们当下的普遍走向并不相同。

不久前,小鹏汽车宣布将会在本月发布全新的子品牌MONA,预计MONA首款车型售价或为15万;5月15日蔚来也在上海发布了全新品牌“ONVO乐道汽车”,其首款车——家庭智能电动中型SUV乐道L60亮相并开启预订,预售价21.99万元起。

至于MEGA失利后推迟了纯电SUV上市计划的理想,目前收缩阵线专注在了卖增程车上,最近用降价策略刺激了一波销量。而MEGA的失败,不仅代表着理想转纯电尝试的失败,也代表着其价格体系冲高的失败。

总之为了在淘汰赛中生存下去,新势力品牌中现存两个流派:一是固守现有的地盘和价格区间,二是向下走,寻求销量扩张的更大空间。只有华为是个例外。

5月31日开启预售的华为鸿蒙智行第三个品牌享界的首款车——定位行政级豪华旗舰轿车的享界S9,预售价为45万元-55万元。继M9之后,夯实了华为系车型定位“豪华”的价格区间。当然后面还有华为与江淮合作的尚未定名的百万级豪车。

从问界到智界再到享界,价格从25万加码到50万,甚至还将上探100万级……华为似乎想用智驾这张牌,通杀中高端新能源车市场。

NO.1 [ “不得不”越卖越贵的华为汽车]

问界M5、M7从25万到30万+的定价还算是增程SUV市场的主流定价水平;智界S7二次上市后(24.98万-34.98万)的定价,无疑是本着宁愿多给配置也不拉低售价的原则;价格再攀新高45万起步预售的享界,无论对比蔚来ET7还是终端优惠后的BBA“56E”,都没什么性价比可言了。

有人评价,拉低售价容易影响品牌口碑和定位,所以华为的做法更像是在降价潮上保证口碑的无奈之举。余承东最近在发布会上的话术,也变成了“卷价值而不是卷价格”。

但余承东的另一个“苦衷”——价格打不下来,或许才是真相。

今年4月的华为鸿蒙生态春季沟通会上,余承东说,“30万以下车用华为高阶智能驾驶,都是在亏本卖。”他进一步表示,华为目前因为供应链、因为各方面的原因受制裁,造成智驾的成本还有点偏高。

华为智驾的成本高,在业内是人尽皆知的事实。目前,华为智驾团队已超过7000人,累计研发投入已经超过300亿。

对比之下,比亚迪和小鹏汽车智驾团队在3000-4000的规模;小米三年,投入3400人、总共300亿,有了第一款车小米SU7的问世。而华为的300亿仅仅是智驾的投入。

在创新研发的投入力度上,华为称第二,国内企业估计没人敢自称第一。具体到汽车业务,从软件算法到智能芯片自研,任何一家新势力也都难以望其项背。这也是为什么华为智驾虽起步不算最早的,但依然快速跻身第一梯队的原因。

除了华为自己的投入成本,还有合作伙伴的成本。

车展期间一位合资企业高管层吐槽:“华为跟车企合作之后可以降低软件成本,但是没有一个人会帮他降低硬件成本。每一家有自己的供应商、零部件体系,不可能形成一个平台,不能复用。”

在他看来,这是华为鸿蒙智能行注定无法解决的问题。这也意味着华为汽车即使越卖越多,也将无法实现大幅度降低硬件成本。

对于现在的华为汽车来说,技术的护城河有了,但是像比亚迪一样的成本护城河确实尚未建立。

打不下来的成本、华为汽车坚持的中高端定位,加上鸿蒙智行旗下各品牌之间需要定位区隔,以及余承东的盈利压力……种种因素叠加,让华为汽车定价越来越高成了必选项。

NO.2 [ 卖的贵,就能盈利?]

大量人力财力的投入,也导致从2021年到2023年,华为车BU分别亏损了100亿、80亿、60亿。

三年前,任正非在社交媒体上发布了“把寒气传递给每个人”的声明。提到华为应该从追求规模转向追求利润和现金流,削减一切不赚钱的业务。可想而知几年来余承东身上的盈利压力有多大。也因此,余承东在很多场合都提到过盈利和亏损的问题。

由于销量规模还没起来,华为车BU去年还是华为体系中唯一不盈利的业务单元。不过今年5月,余承东已经宣布了车BU的“盈利”。他表示,今年一季度华为智选车、车BU已经全部扭亏为盈。

与华为车BU同时盈利的,还有其合作伙伴赛力斯。

根据日前赛力斯对外发布2024年第一季度报告显示,赛力斯一季度净利润转正,结束了连续4年的亏损态势。而2023年全年,赛力斯净亏损还高达近24.5亿元。

财报数据显示,2024年第一季度,赛力斯实现营业收入约265.61亿元,环比增长38.61%,同比增长421.76%;归属于上市公司股东的净利润约为2.2亿元,较上年同期增加了8.45亿元,实现扭亏为盈。

车BU和赛力斯同时盈利的最大功臣是问界M7。去年8月,耗5亿巨资改款后的新问界M7,趁着华为手机Mate 60的热销,收获了巨大关注度和终端订单。问界品牌也由此起死回生。

截至5月底问界新M7Ultra版上市的时候,M7的订单量已经累积达到18万个。

但繁华背后,隐藏着华为汽车的多重困境。

为什么如此热销的M7才推出8个月就要升级换新?因为开局漂亮的M7如今已有增长乏力的迹象——今年以来M7的销量从月销3万台跌到了4月份的9000台,5月份由于官方没有公布具体车型数据,综合估算M7销量大概在8000-9000台左右。

用新车迭代制造新一波消费刺激,虽然粗暴但有效。但随着行业竞争加剧,以及华为手机慢慢退烧,问界M7 Ultra能在多大程度上刺激终端销量?问界的巅峰又是否已经过去?均尚未可知。

而据知情人士透露,问界M9由于成本过高,现在的价格依然是在赔钱卖。‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍

可以确定的是,已经盈利的车BU,想要继续在下一个季度保持盈利,并不容易。因为余承东目前的难题远不止问界M7。

智界S7在二次发布后销量有所抬升,4月份销量达到了5012辆,5月回落到3455台。这样的销量规模必然是没有达到盈利标准的;

将在8月上市的享界S9,不说单挑BBA C级轿车的难度有多大,单说华为与北汽的合作磨合是否也会遭遇当初智界S7交付困难的类似情况?而北汽之后还有江淮,新一轮从0开始的“折磨”;

据了解,鸿蒙智行端午假期三天的7000大定,6000都是问界贡献的;‍

此外,越卖越贵的华为汽车,必然将面对向上越收越窄的市场规模,以及对品牌积淀的考验……

总之,一季度车BU的盈利只能算是给华为汽车继续前进打了剂强心针,后面还有一个“加强排”的问题等待余承东去攻克。

NO.3 [写在最后 ]

去年华为车BU分拆独立,子公司“引望智能”已经注册。目前华为已邀请长安、赛力斯、奇瑞、江淮、北汽、奔驰、奥迪、一汽等车企参与融资。

利用外部资本搞活新能源汽车,是这几年汽车行业的惯常玩法。缺钱的华为车BU独立融资,至少可以暂时卸掉盈利的包袱,轻装远行。有金融机构人士表示,该合资公司的估值达到上千亿元。

时至今日,华为汽车依然是汽车行业一个独特的存在,有人感谢华为带给汽车智驾的巨大声量,更多人期待华为汽车真的能成为中国中高端汽车的一张名片。

任重道远,余总加油。实在不行,咱还是自己造车吧!

本文来自微信公众号“AutoReport 汽车产经”(ID:autoreport),作者:于杰‍‍‍,编辑:杨光,36氪经授权发布。


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